but that wasn't the factual pattern asserted by the defense here. it's true that stand your ground legally speaking didn't apply. and even the way the jurors talk about their verdict, it doesn't seem it really applied to them. the funny thing about it is they keep saying the law required us, the law required us. but that's nonsense. the law itself does not require you to do anything. the fact you find require you to do something. and then the facts apply to the law dictate the verdict. but if you had not already found, jurors had not already found that trayvon martin was the aggressor basically that. >> couldn't have come up with this verdict. so to me, it's their way of dancing around the fact that they determined that trayvon martin threw the first punch and got george zimmerman down, essentially buying the defense, hook, line and sinker. >> i wish somebody had said what you just said at the trial. maybe the prosecutor. maybe the judge. >> hear hear. >> marcia clark, lisa bloom, faith jenkins, thank you for your time tonight. >>> coming up, bill o